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his attorney asked the government to return two prosthetics taken from him as he flew with other suspects from the uk to new york. his attorney said without the limbs, he won't be able to function in a civilized manner. he fought extradition for years in the uk and europe and is accused in a 1998 kidnapping in yemen, plotting to put a terrorist training camp in oregon and supporting violent jihad in afghanistan. the federal magistrate ordered him held on arraignment for tuesday. two of the men who were flown in overnight with him did enter not guilty pleas at an earlier proceeding. they are charged with conspiring to kill americans in the east african embassy bombings in 1998 which caused the deaths of 224 people and injured thousands of others. two other men accused of fund-raising for terrorism through the internet entered not guilty pleas in a connecticut court. if convicted, he faces life in prison. the defendants are facing trial in american civilian courts, not in military court, as in guantanamo bay, because that was the criteria for european justice to agree to extradite. don? >>
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our government tells us that they want us there. they don't. there is so much more involved that i know, it is not even -- i don't even want to get into it now with you, but it will all come out soon enough. but the end of the day, my justice is to another parent wouldn't feel the heartache that i feel. i'm done inside. they tore my whole heart out. i have a hard time going to bed. i think about him every day, every minute, his brothers kill me when i look at them because they're hurt, his mom is hurt so bad. but they didn't just take my son. they destroyed my family. and i don't want other families to feel the pain i'm feeling. i don't want to see another family out there see their son being brought back on a plane and being rolled off a plane in a box with an american flag around it. but you know what, it was our government that dropped the ball and they won't admit it. this boy should have been protected inside a military base. we're training people and my son said, dad, we're training people that are going to turn the weapons on us and kill
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we're both incredibly pro government and incredibly critical of government. i don't see any contradiction in that. we need to embrace those contradictions. we need to say yes. we need government that works, and our government isn't working as well as it should right now. but if you can hold those two seemingly contradictory things together, then yeah, you do feel kind of patriotic. >> the impact is greater engagement. people have a sense that this is somebody else's problem. but it's our problem. we need to work on these solutions together, and it's not something that we can just hand off to government. >> if you don't tolerate any risk, you can never innovate. there is so much that citizens can do to communicate to their elected officials and to the bureaucrats that they interact with. you know what, we want you to try stuff. and it's really remarkable if you think about it in that context that how much we don't like a g
we're both incredibly pro government and incredibly critical of government. i don't see any contradiction in that. we need to embrace those contradictions. we need to say yes. we need government that works, and our government isn't working as well as it should right now. but if you can hold those two seemingly contradictory things together, then yeah, you do feel kind of patriotic. >> the impact is greater engagement. people have a sense that this is somebody else's problem. but it's our...
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>> reporter: well, the turkish government has squarely placed the blame on syrian government forces. and they have some evidence to back that up, john. because this border town had been hit by syrian government artillery, the turkish government says, last week. they actually filed a formal complaint at the united nations about that. even though there were no -- there were no casualties as a result of that incident. it's also important to note, it's not the first time syrian forces have fired into turkey. it happened at another border point, with a police officer from turkey, hit in a refugee camp by gunfire coming from syria. if the turks don't respond, the government is going to look quite weak in the eyes of many turks, particularly in the border region. turks who are very worried about their own safety right now after five turkish citizens were killed. john? >> intense, volatile, dangerous border. thank you, ivan watson, for monitoring it for us this morning. thanks, ivan. >>> it is 18 minutes past the hour. the meningitis outbreak first reported in tennessee has now spread to fiv
>> reporter: well, the turkish government has squarely placed the blame on syrian government forces. and they have some evidence to back that up, john. because this border town had been hit by syrian government artillery, the turkish government says, last week. they actually filed a formal complaint at the united nations about that. even though there were no -- there were no casualties as a result of that incident. it's also important to note, it's not the first time syrian forces have...
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it is time to stop rewarding our friends and punishing our enemies and having the government treat every american the same, which is a foundational principal of the rule of law. and i think mitt romney has to do more of that. has he been specific with his plan? he laid five out in the debate, which is more than the president did. that's why independents thought mitt romney did very, very well. >> let me ask you about one of the issues where they differ, medicare. that is a big deal in florida romney says he supports vouchers for medicare, a plan that is not very popular. how does play in florida with all those seniors? >> right now in florida, you've got about 12 million registered voters. 36% who are republicans, you have 40% who are democrats. and then the 24% or the remainder is going to be the most important percentage in america and i think it's 24% who are not registered republican or democrat. these are going to be the most important voters in the united states. but, let's look at medicare. you have mitt romney who says, i want to give you vouchers, which i personally don't agree
it is time to stop rewarding our friends and punishing our enemies and having the government treat every american the same, which is a foundational principal of the rule of law. and i think mitt romney has to do more of that. has he been specific with his plan? he laid five out in the debate, which is more than the president did. that's why independents thought mitt romney did very, very well. >> let me ask you about one of the issues where they differ, medicare. that is a big deal in...
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we're running to be government -- to lead the government of the entire united states. >> so say whatever he wants as long as he gets elected. >> i don't know where the moral high ground is for president obama on this. remember the guy who wasn't going to take money from super pacs? >> absolutely. good point. another one. you've noted too, those are both right and evolution on gay marriage is ridiculous. but that's not a flip. he tried to guantanamo bay. so did bush and mccain. but this is unprecedented. and when i talk to my radio listeners and when you hear people, they don't care about substance and policy as much as i think theshtd, they care about principle and character. >> president obama set the precedent and did it without having a primary. >> i want to take issue with the notion everything he said before is completely different than what he's saying now. i didn't say you are saying it. but there's this narrative that somehow mitt romney's changed on everything. that is categorically untrue. he's principle keystone romney care which he constantly refers to, he refused to run away
we're running to be government -- to lead the government of the entire united states. >> so say whatever he wants as long as he gets elected. >> i don't know where the moral high ground is for president obama on this. remember the guy who wasn't going to take money from super pacs? >> absolutely. good point. another one. you've noted too, those are both right and evolution on gay marriage is ridiculous. but that's not a flip. he tried to guantanamo bay. so did bush and mccain....
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and the government should give it to them. and they will vote for this president no matter what. >> last night, two and a half weeks after that tape surfaced, government romney went on fox news where he was asked how he would have answered if the tape had come up in wednesday's debate. here's part of his answer. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's just completely wrong. >> he said "completely wrong." that's completely weird namely because the night the tape aired, mr. romney rushed to a microphone to defend his 47% remarks. he kept defending them and hounded supporters for days after that. >> it's not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. i'm speaking off the cuff in response to a question, and i'm sure i could state it more clearly in a more effective way. >> the point of all this is the size of government is too big, and if we don't do something ab
and the government should give it to them. and they will vote for this president no matter what. >> last night, two and a half weeks after that tape surfaced, government romney went on fox news where he was asked how he would have answered if the tape had come up in wednesday's debate. here's part of his answer. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out...
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guns are an issue. >> we've been quite clear as a government there can't be any concept of amnesty. so we have to support the police to have complete operational independence in pursuing every line of inquiry, in bringing those who committed crimes to justice. but i think the very simple point is, no one person is above the process. no one person is above the law. >> but researcher and former i.r.a. member anthony mcintyre is as determined to protect the ar kiefz' confidentiality and others are to expose its secrets. >> i will go to jail to protect gerry adams as quickly as i would go to jail to protect any other person, individual person, possibly implicated as a result of this process. i think that's an ethical imperative. >> for helen mckendry, it is not about politics. not about legal battles. it is simply about closure for the death of the mother she loved. >> if we get the tapes back, this may put an end to everything. >> what do you think might be in those tapes? >> the truth. i think that's why they don't want us -- the people, you know, we do want the tapes to be released b
guns are an issue. >> we've been quite clear as a government there can't be any concept of amnesty. so we have to support the police to have complete operational independence in pursuing every line of inquiry, in bringing those who committed crimes to justice. but i think the very simple point is, no one person is above the process. no one person is above the law. >> but researcher and former i.r.a. member anthony mcintyre is as determined to protect the ar kiefz' confidentiality...
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with police and british army all responsible to the british government. the british prime minister, tony blair, who oversaw the good friday peace agreement, promised finucane's family an inquiry. but late last year, when his wife went to visit david cameron, britain's current prime minister, the british government's message had changed. there would be no inquiry, no effort to find new evidence, no deeper look at how the british government may have been involved in finucane's death. >> if they don't give an inquiry into my husband's murder, which was promised, it will just increase the suspicions. and there are many dissident republicans who are saying, same old brits, nothing has changed, we still need to fight against the british government. and it is giving ammunition to people to return to violence. >> british officials say they're doing enough to investigate what happened to finucane. >> we spent some time looking at every possible option, and the prime minister took personal interest in this case. and we concluded that actually the best route was to
with police and british army all responsible to the british government. the british prime minister, tony blair, who oversaw the good friday peace agreement, promised finucane's family an inquiry. but late last year, when his wife went to visit david cameron, britain's current prime minister, the british government's message had changed. there would be no inquiry, no effort to find new evidence, no deeper look at how the british government may have been involved in finucane's death. >> if...
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you have efforts at governance. we still have a very robust american embassy, so they get a sense of what's going on inside the decision makers in iraq, and we also have a military presence in the form of a military assistance group, if you will, so that we can bolster that as necessary, but that now has reached the point where it must be a request from the government of iraq. we can influence the requests and the questions that they ask us, so we should be able to reinforce that relationship as necessary. >> is it realistic, because one of the only differences between these two is on the issue of syria and whether or not those rebels should be armed and providing arms. is that a way of actually ending this civil war, as romney suggests, as actually arming heavy arms to those rebel that is a lot of people don't even know who they are or whether or not they would get in the hands of terrorists? >> well, that's a single tact that can be taken. it by itself, you know, exclusive of other efforts that should be ongoing r
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-- to depend on government. it would have to be distorted. if he con flated those two things and you didn't understand what he was saying and that was a room full of people who clearly understood what he was saying, the reason the president has to keep talking about is because he cannot run on his record where 23 million people cannot get jobs. where one out of six people live in poverty. where the cost of everything is going up from health care premiums that he promised would go down to energy. and the value of life savings has been depleted. the obama recovery is worse than the bush recession. median incomes have declined at twice the rate in the obama recovery. >> wolf, the reason you hear mary having to struggle to explain what we know exactly what mitt romney said is because she's trying to get away from what he actually said. the fact that he had to sit there and say i was wrong is an admission that he has been hurt by those particular comments. now, we can sit here and try to, oh, let me explain or interp
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>> what we're seeing right now is, in my view, a trickle-down government approach which has government thinking it can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams and it's not working. >> it's thursday, october 4th. "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome, everybody. our team this morning to talk about last night's debate, brett o'donnell is with us, presidential campaign debate adviser extraordinaire, i'll add that on the end there and roland martin is host of washington watch aired on tv one, of course. you can't help yourself. >> got to have an interesting intro. >> it's already starting. >> and will cain from blaze.com. and dana bash, also extrrordinaire. >> i don't feel special. >> you are specially extrordinair extrordinaire. >> issues by -- by most accounts it was mitt romney who was the clear winner. john mccain of arizona is coming up to talk with us also obama campaign spokeswoman jen psaki will be joining us and austan goolsbee will be talking with us as well. for most nights it was mitt romney who was the aggressor. for offense, the president took a page o
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>> well, actually, big bird doesn't get money from the government. in fact, the money that comes from the government into the corporation for public broadcasting doesn't come to pbs, it goes to our member stations. so that is actually what is at risk if, in fact, we are defunded because the money is going to stations across the country in aggregate our money is 15% of our budget. when you look at it station by station, some stations, particularly in rural parts of the country, they are a part of the federal budget is 50% to 70%. those stations will go off the air. for people sitting in communities across the country, that is at risk. that is the consequence if, in fact, our money is zeroed out. for the 40 years of our history we have been a great public private partnership and we take the federal money and leverage that with resources that we raise. >> i want to talk a little bit about jim lehrer. critics this morning just annihilating his performance last night. what did you think of jim lehrer's performance? >> i thought it was a very complicated d
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so we're the oversight committee but we're also the government reform committee. we've got to get at the truth. thus far, it's been a slippery attempt to try to get to the truth because the white house and the obama administration has been very slow in giving us the facts. >> there is a guy named lieutenant colonel andy wood. >> yes. >> i believe he's going to be testifying before you today. here's a little bit of what he said to cbs this morning a couple days ago. listen. >> for enhanced or continued security that we had, that we had known, that we had come to live with and work with no tl for the environment we had, we felt we needed more, not less. there was pressure to reduce the number of security people there. >> pressure from where? >> higher headquarters at state department. >> so to me that is very much a red flag in that. if the issue of course would be if the numbers are being intentionally kept low, who do you blame for that? >> well, we have two people coming from the state department who are going to answer those questions. thus far, they have not ow
so we're the oversight committee but we're also the government reform committee. we've got to get at the truth. thus far, it's been a slippery attempt to try to get to the truth because the white house and the obama administration has been very slow in giving us the facts. >> there is a guy named lieutenant colonel andy wood. >> yes. >> i believe he's going to be testifying before you today. here's a little bit of what he said to cbs this morning a couple days ago. listen....
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government, u.s. intelligence rechs out to this man because he could have some valuable information about the iranian government. he is an insider, an mahmoud ahmadinejad insider. they probably wouldn't bring him to overseas trips if they didn't trust him. so company have some valuable intelligence for the u.s. government. >> i imagine that's quite true because this is somebody who has been right by his side, mahmoud ahmadinejad's side. if he's the photographer i imagine he's seen a lot of what this man does and what mahmoud ahmadinejad is capable of. be very interesting to know what kind of intelligence they get from him. tell us about the family. i under they fled the country. are they in trouble? >> reporte there are reports that they fled and that's always a concern when it comes to iranian dicy dents, iranians 0 who seek asylum. over the years there's been many photographers, film makers, journalist, artists claiming they have been persecuted and threatened. oftentimes their families are in dange
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the government has an oversight capacity, doesn't take it over because the government is going to screw it up. >> here's what i would do from health care. i would decouple it from work. i would make sure the employers not responsible for health care, free people up to have more moblts in terms of changing jobs, ill no not putting them into bankruptcy and all those situations we're in now. >> you don't usually see comedians talking about mandates and health care in detail. before this it was a serious moment where jon stewart talked about the fact that bill o'reilly's dad, when he left the job, had gotten disability and he tried to use that to show that after you won at some point, depends on the government to support them in some way and you shouldn't hold that against them. some real heat there. he got personal. talk about a guy's dad. that's sticking it to him. >> all right. so who won this debate in your opinion? you watched the entire thing and talked to one of the guys. what do you think? >> what i thought was great, it wasn't a winner or loser and that's what made it interesting.
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live pictures right now of the house oversight and government reform committee rsh right now democratic representative elijah cummings talking right now. always searching for answer on what the u.s. knew leading up to and following the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, which led to the deaths of four americans, including the u.s. ambassador there. let's listen in to representative cummings. >> are just as concerned as members on the other side of the aisle. we each represent about 700,000 each people too. >> what do we do today? what do we do today? my goal is to try in some way to put this toxic partisanship behind us. and focus on the security of our personnel. every two years we put our hands up as member of this congress and we swear to protect the people of the united states of america. all of us do that. not just republicans. not just democrats. all of us. those people that we promise to protect are not limited to just the folks located within our shores our bountryes of this nation, but those people that go out and put their lives on the line every day for us and -- >> yo
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the mexican government has a cooperation agreement with the united states government. there is also, of course, that big overarching issue of whether all of this is connected to fast and furious. we don't know the answer to whether it is. in the case of brian terry, two firearms were located at the scene. and traced back to operation fast and furious. in this case, authorities say no firearms were found at the scene. however, that ivie case is attracting attention on the hill. republican senator charles grassley, the point man in the senate on operation fast and furious, put out a letter stating the obvious saying, there is no way to know at this point how the agent was killed, but because of operation fast and furious, we're going to wonder for years if the guns used in the killing along the border were part of an ill advised gun walking strategy. >> joe johns reporting live for us this morning. >>> stars of the hit '80s movie "the princess bride" are planning a reunion for the 25th anniversary. awesome. showbiz headlines next. ♪ ♪ [ man ] excuse me miss. [ gasps
the mexican government has a cooperation agreement with the united states government. there is also, of course, that big overarching issue of whether all of this is connected to fast and furious. we don't know the answer to whether it is. in the case of brian terry, two firearms were located at the scene. and traced back to operation fast and furious. in this case, authorities say no firearms were found at the scene. however, that ivie case is attracting attention on the hill. republican...
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government jobs, three months in a row now. we've been seeing government layoffs for many, many, many months in a row. government jobs, transportation warehousing and we've been seeing -- everything else is pretty much flat in terms of job categories. the headline, carol, 7.8% is the unemployment rate. one more jobs report until the election. >> okay. so the political implications of this already coming in. in fact, we just got an e-mail from conservatives. this is what they're saying, christine. conservatives are challenging the legitimacy of the labor department number. can someone explain how the jobs added up right where economists were projecting and yet the rate fell to below 8%? also jack welch, the former ge guy. >> yep. >> he's tweeting this morning and saying, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. i mean -- so is it possible the labor department is lying or has changed these numbers in some way? >> look, these numbers are often revised. usually when you have a
government jobs, three months in a row now. we've been seeing government layoffs for many, many, many months in a row. government jobs, transportation warehousing and we've been seeing -- everything else is pretty much flat in terms of job categories. the headline, carol, 7.8% is the unemployment rate. one more jobs report until the election. >> okay. so the political implications of this already coming in. in fact, we just got an e-mail from conservatives. this is what they're saying,...
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we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people just last year. bp invests more in america than in any other country. in fact, over the last five years, no other energy company has invested more in the us than bp. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. today, our commitment to the gulf, and to america, has never been stronger. ends columbus day. inventory clearance sale get 3 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. save 10%, 20%, even 35% on a huge selection of simmons and sealy clearance mattresses. even get free delivery! don't miss 3 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. the inventory clearance sale ends monday. superior service, best selection, lowest price, guaranteed. ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >>> some military wives in tennessee a
we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people just last year. bp invests more in america than in any other country. in fact, over the last five years, no other energy company has invested more in the us than bp....
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their style of governing and how they view the role of government. let's take a look at the state of play during the obama presidency. explain the map, dark green, unemployment went down a lot in the obama presidency. went up a lot in new york, that's not a battleground stalt, but it went up a lot in nevada. that is a big battleground state. went down a decent amount in ohio. another battleground state. the candidates of course will be speaking to the neigh, but they know this race is playing out in six, eight, maybe nine battleground states. take a closer look as the candidates talk about the economy tonight in florida, iowa, ohio, virginia and wisconsin the unemployment rate has dropped during the obama presidency. no surprise if you look at the recent polls, the president is ahead. some by a bit, some states narrowly, some states bigger. but the president ahead in all of these battleground states where the unemployment rate has dropped during his presidency. the debate tonight is in one of the fiercest fought battles right now, the state of colora
their style of governing and how they view the role of government. let's take a look at the state of play during the obama presidency. explain the map, dark green, unemployment went down a lot in the obama presidency. went up a lot in new york, that's not a battleground stalt, but it went up a lot in nevada. that is a big battleground state. went down a decent amount in ohio. another battleground state. the candidates of course will be speaking to the neigh, but they know this race is playing...
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the chair of the government committee that initiated this hearing opened up by saying the state department was, quote, coming clean as it released new details just last night. those details include officials saying that attack at the consulate in benghazi was impossible to defend. and today, a regional security officer testified the assault was something the united states had never seen before at a diplomatic outpost. >> i had not seen an attack of such ferocity and intensity previously in libya. nor in my time with the diplomatic security service. i'm concerned that this attack signals a new security reality, just as the 1983 beirut marine barracks bombings did for the marines, the 1998 east africa embassy bombings did for the state department, and 9/11 did for our entire country. however, we must remember that it is critical that we balance our risk mitigation efforts with the needs of our diplomats to do their jobs. the answer cannot be to operate from a bunker. >> also, it revealed in this hearing still under way on the hill how officials in benghazi asked for more security at the cons
the chair of the government committee that initiated this hearing opened up by saying the state department was, quote, coming clean as it released new details just last night. those details include officials saying that attack at the consulate in benghazi was impossible to defend. and today, a regional security officer testified the assault was something the united states had never seen before at a diplomatic outpost. >> i had not seen an attack of such ferocity and intensity previously...